
Notice the lack of tow vehicles. Photos by author, Dave Helgeson
Why You Shouldn’t Store Your RV In The Forest
My wife and I had the privilege of RVing through Wyoming’s Big Horn Mountains this summer. There are lots of scenic places to explore and the high elevation makes for comfortable weather when it is broiling hot at lower elevations.
Prior to arriving, I had researched several large areas where boondocking is allowed and looked forward to staying in a scenic campsite along the edge of a mountain meadow. However, when we arrived I was rather shocked to see RVs (mostly travel trailers and fifth wheels) already parked in all of the areas I had planned to camp (rarely an issue).
As we continued along the road looking for a spot to pull off, I began to notice very few of the fifth wheels and travel trailers had tow vehicles parked next to them. Further inspection revealed slide outs weren’t extended, stabilizing jacks weren’t deployed, and some units weren’t even parked level.
Spying an open campsite between a fifth wheel to the north and travel trailer to the south, I walked in to check out the site, the “neighbors” and the access to get there. Sure enough, there were no tow vehicles parked at my neighbor’s RVs.
The mentioned fifth wheel, which was less than 100 feet through the trees from the open campsite, was not parked level, slide-outs were retracted, the entry step wasn’t pulled out, and an ATV was securely chained to the frame, indicating no one was occupying the RV just like the others we had passed by.

Neighboring RV. Nobody was home.
Is this good boondocking etiquette?
Normally, boondocking etiquette suggests you shouldn’t camp this close to another RV, but given the circumstances, I did. We stayed three days and no one ever arrived to occupy the fifth wheel.
Is it just me or do others feel that leaving an RV unattended for extended periods of time is abusing the system? After all, our forests belong to everyone. Should they be treated as a private camping club where people are allowed to store their RVs and occupy them only occasionally when they please? It displaces other users that want to camp and enjoy their public land. Plus, who wants to camp in the middle of an RV storage lot?
While some national forests prohibit you from leaving your RV unattended for a short period of time (typically 24 to 48 hours), the Big Horn National Forest does not.

Our campsite.
Camping among a bunch of vacant RVs in the forest, just another adventure in RVing!
What are your thoughts on unattended RVs? Please share.
See also: Campground Etiquette: How To Be A Good Camping Neighbor

Dave Helgeson’s many roles in the RV industry started before he even had a driver’s license. His grandparents and father owned an RV dealership before the term “RV” had been coined, and Dave played a pivotal role in nearly every position of an RV dealership. He and his wife Cheri launched their own RV dealership in the Pacific Northwest. The duo also spent 29 years overseeing regional RV shows. Dave has also served as President of a local chapter of the Recreational Vehicle Dealers Association (RVDA), worked on the board of advisors for the RV Technician Program of a local technical college, and served as a board member of the Manufactured Home and RV Association. Dave’s reputation earned him the title of “The foremost expert on boondocking,” bestowed by RV industry icon, the late Gary Bunzer (The RV Doctor). When he’s not out boondocking, you’ll find Dave in the spotlight at RV shows across the country, giving seminars about all things RVing. He and Cheri currently roam in their fifth travel trailer, with Dave doing all the service, repair and modifications to his own unit.
They are hunters bring their rigs in early prior to the season.
What part of “It’s All About ME” did you miss ?
I used to for hunting camps. Then I suffered theft and vandalism not once, not twice but three years in a row. (Call me a slow learner I guess) in Utah’s remote mountains. No more, ever, will I leave a trailer unattended unless someone else is within eyesight.
This is becoming an issue in the National Parks. People leaving their rigs on campsites and using them only on Saturday night but taking the site for up to two weeks. Or, reserving sites and then never showing yet people in the FCFS waiting line with rigs in tow are refused use of the “Full” campground. Ridiculous and rude. I say no one in sight for 24 hrs should get you towed at owner expense. They are abusing the system and using the land as free storage. Depriving legitimate campers of use.
I agree that the Authorities should not allow people to just park their unattended RV’s for long periods of time, or semi-permanently in campsites or other boon-docking sites, and if the system is abused than after such a period of time the authorities would be required to have the RV’s towed away to an impound storage lot for later retrieval by the owners at their expense. hat would more than likely either eliminate and/or stop that long term unattended RV parking
Why are you so ready to limit freedom and create another expensive violation for a fellow citizen who is doing absolutely no harm? Why are you so quick to be supportive of a selfish individual who got offended over nothing?
If you have ever been to Big Horn, there are millions of acres of land. No crowding at all. Unless the sight of another RV is offensive to you. Maybe you aren’t suited to the RV lifestyle after all, Old.
With respect… Public potshots at others over their individualistic intent on how they RV should be left to facebook. You do not own the term RV or it’s definition any more than those *parking* indefinitely on natual land that was intended to be left natural & politely borrowed.
Agree with you. Don’t think most people would go to this area to be in an RV park. Sociable Quartzite would be more appropriate. Extremely convenient for locals though.
If there is unlimited space to park , usually not the case in the lower 48, there would be no harm. Leaving your RV out on public land to avoid storage fees is definitely abuse of the system.
Cheap RV owners not wanting to pay for proper storage, or hunters-campers trying to tie up the best camping spot are both wrong. If an RV is left unattended for more than 48 hours then it should be impounded, issued a fine, or required to pay the forest service for a permit to camp in a particular location per day for a protracted period of time if left unattended for more than 48 hours. There needs to be a system of stopping people from imposing their greed on my freedom and rights to the forest!
I have agree.
As much I like being laid back about the whole thing,my experience in life has been when a few abuse the privelege of anything, it leads to restrictions being placed on everyone eventually. There goes our freedom.
If you have an rv, you have to plan on having place to keep it. I wouldn’t like coming 1900 miles to see this after waiting my whole life to get there. You want to wake up to nature if you’re lucky enough to be the only human there,
I absolutely agree! This is a nationwide issue and is getting worse every year. We recently camped in the Fishlake NF in Utah and there were over 50 trailers that had not been occupied M-F in a 3 mile radius. The hunting season was over 3 weeks out so that excuse doesn’t fly either. Some had huge water storage tanks mounted to an additional trailer also. I have to wonder how they are storing their gray water… And for those of you who support leaving your rigs on the mountain…if we all did it, what kind of camping experience would we have? Simple math would dictate that an increase in camping areas would be necessary to “store” all those unoccupied trailers.
Simple solution. Fine these people a week after abandoning their RV in a no-storage area. Obviously Wolf-Alaska and WeWynts are two of the constant violators;. Both exhibit that “I’m the only important person” attitude.
*Obviously* my sarcasm threw you off. Indeed I would never dream of taking such liberties with public lands that were intended for all to ENJOY, not all to TAKE ADVANTAGE OF for my sole benefit. Possibly you might want to stick to facebook with your assumptions. I wasn’t going after anyone here. I made a very broad opinion singling out absolutely no one. I was having a civilized conversation with the author. Clearly this forum is no different than the insanity of any other social media platform. Blessings to you all. Peace out.
Where I’m at 2/3 of the sites are reservations, well guess what, you go on computer and all the sites wrapped up for the whole summer for every Friday and Saturday. So if you want a 2 week stay you cant pick any of these premium sites. So the rest are drive up first come, in order to get a decent site you need to be there on Tues or Wednesday and pay for 2 to 3 days to get a weekend park. It stinks. And of course it looks to some as boondocking..the state doesn’t care their collecting 35 a night, people there or not. federal sites alittle different, knowing people as I do, if you could park in a site and save a hundred a month you would have campers all over the place. I have never come across free even federal sites. But park rangers could end all that by enforcing simple park policy. Last I checked in midwest a federal site cost 25 to 30 a night and half price for the disabled or retired. I find it hard to believe that anyone would pay 900 a month as opposed to a parking lot for a hundred a month.
You seem to think the person upset about RVs parked in the National Forest is the problem. There are millions of acres in the forest but a very small percentage with a road to give trailer access. Again, this is public land for everyone to use including the owners of those vacant RVs. Using National Forest lands as a parking lot for a few people is a selfish act on their part. These vacant trailers should be towed out of the Forest.
We also were out there this summer 2019. We too noticed all the rvs park with no signs of life. We thought maybe some may belong to ranchers and ranch hands but we were not sure. We had reservations at Sibley Lake due to our dogs and need for AC. But did wonder for another time when we will be able to boondock. Seems to be Sheridans playground! Beautiful area. Fished with a small moose at Prune Creek!
Yep. The sense of entitlement followed by the righteous indignation of you calling the authorities which leads to BigBrother creating even more constricting laws in a “free” country. The hypocrisy. Ain’t it grand?
“Sence of entitlement”? A person that underhandly creates his own “mountain cabin” on public land without going through the procedures that others do, by storing an RV on that public land and keeping a camper from using that site is, I think”, really extending his “sense of entitlement: to an absurd extreme. Even parking an RV on a campsite, FHU or boondocking, rather than at a trailhead parking area, while on more than an overnight backpacking trip is being obtuse.
totally agree…. this crosses the line and takes advantage of a “public ” land..
They’re not violating any rules apparently. Wasting your time worrying about etiquette in this situation. Move on and be happy
Your rule argument may not necessarily be true. Most National Forest dispersed camping rules stipulate a maximum number of nights you may occupy the site (typically 14) and in some cases dictate how far you must move in order to reoccupy another site. In the area we camped these rules were applicable and most of the rigs I saw were clearly established in their sites for waaaaaay longer than the allowed 14 day period.
Clearly there is a lack of enforcement.
I am mystified why a “scenic campsite” is turned into a storage/parking lot also. Let those who who love nature, and drive to a CAMP SITE, enjoy USING it for its stated purpose. This parking lot use is a terrible waste of an exquisite environmental resource all Americans pay for. If it’s a parking lot, it should not be listed as a camping site.
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This is becoming an issue in the National Parks. People leaving their rigs on campsites and using them only on Saturday night but taking the site for up to two weeks. Or, reserving sites and then never showing yet people in the FCFS waiting line with rigs in tow are refused use of the “Full” campground. Ridiculous and rude. I say no one in sight for 24 hrs should get you towed at owner expense. They are abusing the system and using the land as free storage. Depriving legitimate campers of use.
Dave, I agree with you and I think some of the owners of those campers showed up here.
Yes, I live in Arizona and this year I could not find a camp spot in the usual area we go to the forest service rule is no more than 14 days camping in one spot. The problem was no one was going by the rules and no enforcement. Its called sharing the forest but this year was terrible. Twice wen to the same area and only the second time did we get a spot. Just unbelievable how people are this year. A couple of days is not an issue but for months and yes we saw some of the same trailers and more trash left at camp spots than we have ever seen in previous years. Hope next year is better.
I’ve even seen unattended and unoccupied RV’s parked in actual USFS campgrounds- flagrantly violating the rules. They are brought in mid week to secure a spot for the weekend and sit unused.
Is anything done about it? NO!
You can’t argue with stupid!
And you can’t fix it, either. Not even with Duct Tape.
Nope. Not violating the rules. Check into it please before throwing it out there like it’s a fact.
They are the best neighbors to have, ones that are never there!
Per the Forest Service website for the Big Horn National Forest, the length of stay is limited to 14 days within any 28 day period at any given campsite or immediate vicinity from June 1st to September 10. The 14 day limit of stay may be used either through a number of separate visits or through 14 days of continuous occupation during the 28 day period. After 14 days, you must move a minimum of five air miles. Once the 14 day limit of stay has been reached for any given site, use shall not occur again until 14 days have elapsed from the last day of use.
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Bill, you are exactly correct … this are “my hometown mtns” I know the rules well, 14-day parking limit in any one site, then you must move min of 5 miles. Trouble is RVers just ‘trade sites’ after that limit.
I know the Forest Service DOES check and tag.
I suggested a $3/day cost with window sticker (as usual showing days paid/leave date) for the dispersed camping. That would keep costs down in the regular CG’s and the boondockers would actually end up paying $90 per month … I feel they would then decide to ‘store’ an RV in real storage for ~$50-60/month if they didn’t plan to use it. I recommended it during a ‘comment period’ for forest servide .. as you see, to no avail.
What’s an Air Mile (other than a loyalty card value)? The only mile I know of other than the statute mile (5280 ft) is the nautical mile, or Knot (~6050 ft). And who would be using knots for surface travel?
In other words, a “crow-flies” mile, not a twisty-turny forest road mile.
Well, I guess, since you can’t figure that out, you must be exempt from the rules, correct?
Thank you for stating the rules here. The scofflaws need to follow the rules that are in place for everyone or face large fines. Now we will need to spend more public money on enforcement for those who should just follow the rules. Honestly, I think it is about time to revise it to 7 days in a site as too many are living in our national forests to the detriment of others who wish to recreate and enjoy our National Forests.
I was up there this summer as well and saw the many RV’s parked not far off the road and unoccupied waiting for the owners to return. I know if I camped up there frequently I’d certainly would prefer to leave it if I was coming from Sheridan or similar locations. Wouldn’t want to keep dragging the RV over the washboard roads. Never saw it as much of an issue, lots of space up there, people enjoying public lands. Campgrounds close early from snow.
Creeps that think they own the world and live like freedom is their right and only applies to their freedom therefore they think it is the “right” to “reserve” their own private campsite in a public area intended for everybody weeks ahead of time makes me feel like removing ALL their schaders and throw the parts away. When we abuse our freedoms then we will loose those same freedoms to ” Big Brother “..
WOW< what a Perfect solution: The Schraeder Connection. Make every RV pay a nominal daily fee to the State/Federal agency who maintains/patrols/pulls the trash on public lands. Those who do not pay the nominal fee, loose their Schraeder valves!!
I’ve never been boondocking to this degree. I do understand leaving an RV on site for later hunting or recreation. Because during the seasons, some only have a weekend getaway to get out to take advantage of the recreation of hunting for example. And this ‘parking’ for the short term lessens the amount of work it takes to get ready for a hunt and allows for a ‘lodge’ to go to.
This doesn’t seem to be an issue unless there is gross abuse of the land such as dumping or garbage. The RVs in question seem to be well cared for.
Now, if people were intending to live full time at this site; that’s another story. As in any recreation area the first and foremost concern should be for the land, and safety of the humans and animals that inhabit the area. Leaving an RV for an indefinite time would certainly be cause for impounding. Also, the excess expense on the part of tax payers who ultimately would pay for the impact of derilect
RVs.
I see no harm for temporary set up especially if the land use is open for this as long as you do no harm.
Relaxing in the outdoors and having freedom to do so is a privilege. Remain respectful and responsible to the land.
Have fun and enjoy.
I’m betting if things started happening to those abandoned RVs….break ins, vandalism, etc., then people wouldn’t be so quick to park their trailer and leave it. Just saying…
The letter of the law is in enforcing the time limits. Is there enough enforcers to go around – is the question.? Very expensive to hire and also enforce the laws and rules. But, if people continue to abide by gross negligence of the rules; we law abiding citizens are doomed to not having these camping opportunities in the future.
Too bad we don’t live in the ‘wild west’ anymore where the rule of the land is in our own hands.
But then, that’s why we have laws imposed to try and make it a more fair system.
Then there are always those who feel they are an exception to the law and rules and will push a point to oblivion- which ruins the intention of freedoms for all of us other folk.
Please continue to take the responsibilities of camping in this venue; observe the rules and keep the land free for the rest of us. Be the solution not the problem.
I live in MN & have camped in the Big Horns off & on for 30+ years. Sure people leave trailers out so they have a spot for the next weekend, but I’ve never seen it as a problem, there is so much open space that you can always find a spot. I’ve been to 49 states & have never seen campsites that are as clean & litter free as those in the Big Horns. Here in MN we have a lot of slobs.
We already have too many restrictions and rules. Find another place to camp. Matters not if the RV is occupied, it can be in place for the allowed period of time.
I think it’s appropriate for a person to pay a land use permit fee for any RV left unattended for up to 48 hrs. This will help the forest service to offset costs of removing abandoned property, checking each RV for stolen or expired license, and to ensure the property is only left unattended for a pre-determined short period of time (for hunting or other outdoors activity) before being towed and not as result of someone’s greed to tie up the best camping spot for free, or trying to beat the costs of storage.
There are a lot of RV Storage places (at least in Arizona) that don’t take older RVs because people dump them there, quit paying, and never come back creating a huge headache for the storage owners.
A National Forest unattended property land use permit makes since. To keep out the deadbeats who can’t or won’t pay for proper storage and who will dump their RV-property on lands we all own! If it’s the hunter or outdoor enthusiast, then most won’t mind paying for an unattended property land use permit which is then also used for owner identification and emergency contact.
EXACTLY Richard … my point, a $3/day permit, rangers know exactly when unit to be moved and if used for ‘storage’ it is more expensive. Use it or lose it.
Sticker it. If unattended (sticker did not get a contact response) after 14 days, owner should get a fine. If unattended (2nd sticker does not get contact response) after 30 days, RV should be towed to an impound lot.
That’s what I think the management of these parks should do. Even a medical emergency wouldn’t keep someone from contacting the management for 2 weeks most likely. And early parking for hunting season? You don’t need to set up your rig more than 2 weeks in advance, or perhaps <30 days if you get a permit (fee).
It's not about 1000's of acres and someone getting 'offended' by seeing another RV… it's about misuse of the land and the potential issues that creates for the land, and other people. It's not a parking lot.
You’re Exactly Correct, Russell
Here is the deal. These are National Forest……..public land. They are for all of us and are not private property with storage rights. I can understand why some morons would want to assure their “spot” is “saved” and that they don’t have to pay the extra expense and maintenance of having to tow their RV up there from where ever. However, it is self evident that this practise when it becomes common practise is not fair to others who would otherwise be able to use those spots. I don’t like the ideal of having to have BLM employees become the enforcers of new rules, but these types of practises will lead to exactly that…………and then all of us will be losing because of the bureaucratic mess and cost that leads to..
Very True Tom. and once again, Exactly Right Russell. Those who can’t see this can say what they want. But the situation is they are some of the ones who are helping create it by ignoring the situation instead of helping stop it, and and are in a round-about way supporting it through their inaction and as well as in their comments of support for it by coming up with excuses for the owners of those unattended, longer than necessary, parked RV.’s.- National Parks, State Parks, as well as on lands owned by the BLM all have a Maximum number of days allowed (most states it’s 14 days), then the owners have to move to another spot (usually a minimum of 25 miles away). In some states those 14 days are accumulative for the entire year (i.e., if a person stays 4 days then moves, for a few days and then comes back to the same spot again the 14 day maximum limit picks up and continues again from the first day of the original 14 days and the 14 day limit does not restart again (Idaho has that set of accumulative days per year limit). Have any doubts? then feel free to go to Idaho.gov, and look it up. (I think that’s the correct website, if not you can find it by looking into the different camping in Idaho websites).
That RV wasn’t bothering you at all. You had more privacy with them not being there. How do you know why they weren’t there? Could have been a medical emergency. You stayed three days and are complaining about a 14 day limit. You don’t know how long the RV was there!
People complain about every thing. I stay away from those type of people, which are most commenting on this situation. You probably left your home in New England and think the same laws and culture apply in Wyoming. Sigh
Rockinreel and yet here you are complaining about people complaining. SMH!
Rockinreel. Finding reasons (excuses) for people taking advantage of (hogging) a privilege in the hope that people like Rockinreel can continue to abuse a privilege. Too many people like Rockinreel in this world .
Have you ever been up there, there is no shartage of space and no one is being denied anything. It’s WY for heavens’ sake.
Here is just one reason folks should complain, Eventually if people are allowed to store their rvs in this. or any other area,, the place will eventually look like an RC storage facility, and camping there will be no different than camping in a storage area. Of course, those who abuse privileges will always come up with justification for being allowed to. Rockinreel,needs to know that most people in New England respect and consider the rights of others.
They have the greatest collection agency in the world for those that don’t pay, dump or abandon RVs on public land…it is called the IRS. Use registration to find owner, send collection letter, no response withhold tax refund or other federal benefits.
Easy Peasy.
Why make criminals out of law abiding citizens just because they violate your sense of etiquette? If there is plenty of parking then what harm is done. Just because someone has something you do not is not a reason to take it away from them. It’s like two children fighting over a ball in a room full of balls. We have way too much involvement by authorities in our lives the way it is. RVers are some of the most tolerant people I know and I proud to be one. There are plenty of times I shake my head in amazement over a few individual’s actions. Maybe if you could post a note on each RV to explain how your feelings were hurt then they would see the errors pf their ways. Can’t we all just get along?
I was in the Northern Bighorns this August and witnessed this trailer issue for the first time. The place is exceptionally beautiful. At first, I supposed these were for the cowboys attending free ranging cattle or maybe hunters. But there were just so many of these compared to cattle herds. Despite very little litter around especially and sadly compared to my
home state of GA, I did feel it detracted from the beauty of the area and will have negative consequences as others have noted.
A permit system with fees as suggested would likely weed out most of the abusers, IMO.
Spent June 2016 in the Big Horns with a truck camper, I was small and found spots. Almost everywhere I went it looked similar to the picture above with a bunch of trashy RV’s. The problem is there aren’t plenty of spots for a bigger 5th wheel or camping trailer. So when a person chooses to move in and out as snow dictates, they deny someone else the opportunity. Doing the right thing, following the rules, being honorable, those folks just don’t care. Welcome to the new America!
I agree, it is just common courtesy to not leave an RV at these sites like it is your own personal property. JMHO
Leaving your Rig in the forest will allow critters to come in and some can be damaging to electrical wiring and water lines….Mice look for any food left and of course they bring a slew of issues. If you must leave your rig in the forest take the time to clean the area around the wheels and hitch area that will help keep critters from visiting your rig. also some soda sprinkled round the wheels and hitch foot will be a small deterrent without damaging the land or creating some bad effects to interested critters who just want to see why you parked there.
I’m not one to want to add regulations, we are regulated enough up her in BC, but abuse usually leads to them. Even if it perceived to be abuse.
Personally, Security would be a bigger concern for me. Having units out in the bush are just easy pickings for less honest people. my $0.02 😉
It’s Wyoming. Get over it.
Being Wyoming means that it’s totally ok to be entitled and rude of course!
Except not. Move your trailer Jeanie.
me and my wife stayed at a campground there it was beautiful, but i agree people do leave the campers parked for extended periods , but soon the people who arent so honest will start taking what they want ( vadalism ) and who will they blame is the question ?
I think that maybe a rude and presumptuous comment on your part without knowing all of the facts.
I think to many people on here need to be aware of the law before shooting off their mouths. Here in Montana; most remote camping areas allow for up to 14 days of camping before your RV must be moved. So in theory they could have arrived and dropped off their RV a few days prior and just because you didn’t see anyone, they were still within their rights to part it where they did, and most of the time there are no designated spots, so it’s a first come first take kind of situation. Wilderness camping in the west isn’t like some campground you may be used to. The author also failed to mention what date this took place; was it just before a holiday, during hunting season, as that can also make a difference. I live in Montana and very used to remote camping.
Welcome to summer camping in the Big Horn Mountains of Wyoming! We go at least twice a year in July/August and it is always a struggle to find a campsite even with all of the roads up there. So many people leave their RV’s and only come up on the weekend, Forest Service does come by most popular areas and check license plates weekly, there is a 14 day limit for each camper, but fines are small so unless they tow your RV the owners do nothing. The other disadvantage is that a good portion is open range and you will have to deal with cows. It is an amazing area to camp in though, lots of beautiful views and wildlife. Most areas you will not get cell service, you can get free wifi at Burgess Junction as well as fuel and a meal and free (donations excepted) potable water and tank dump just down the road from there. Very little grocery items on the mountain, so make sure you are well supplied or stop in Lovell, Greybull, or Sheridan Wyoming for supplies.
I have this feeling that if we left our rig unattended for just a few days it would a) be broken into or b) have little mouse like visitors moving in or c) have squatters using the facilities…I don’t trust our luck in either populated or remote places these days. We are being told that the RV population is going to increase in the near future, so the heavy hand of government will probably start restricting lands they manage. That is, if they leave the areas open to camping. The state & corp campgrounds threw in the towel early when the plandemic was enacted. Try to find a campsite when they close everything down..SHEESH…it’s sure stressful to relax!!!
The people who think it’s no big deal probably have never heard of an MVUM (Motor Vehicle Use Map). I was just looking at the Bighorn National Forest MVUM PDF and it’s quite restrictive.Those who claim there’s “lots of space” don’t know what they’re talking about.
I haven’t visited Bighorn but if the limited authorized spots on the map (the little dots) are similar to the many other public lands I’ve visited, only a small percentage of those spots are worth camping, or even *possible* for camping. For example, on the Black Hills National Forest MVUM many of the designated camping areas are in a ditch to the side of the forest road with a steep hillside beyond the ditch. Maybe a pup tent would fit. Just hope it doesn’t rain and have water rush down the ditch.
Another forest in Oregon had designated camping in thick vegetation. You’d have to use heavy equipment to clear space for an RV of any size (not allowed, of course).
The point is that there is no longer all that much *usable* camping land even in places like Bighorn National Forest. It’s a very limited resource and should be shared according to the established rules (e.g. 14-day limit).